ABC Radio Breakfast with Ross Solly

ROSS SOLLY: The National Capital Authority recently released – or just in the last couple of weeks, released its annual report, and buried inside that report was the news that a couple of key infrastructure projects, including work it was doing on Scrivener Dam and on Commonwealth Bridge, have sort of become stuck in a bit of a quagmire. They’re going nowhere, and nobody can actually explain why. We have put in a request to the National Capital Authority on several occasions. I don’t think we’ve even got a reply to be honest. I don’t think they’ve even acknowledged our request, so it’s a bit difficult to get a response from the National Capital Authority though. Somebody who has managed to sit down and have a chat with them though is Kristy McBain, the Federal Minister for Regional Development and Member for Eden-Monaro. Good morning to you, Kristy McBain. 

KRISTY MCBAIN: Good morning Ross. How are you going?

SOLLY: Yeah, not too bad. I understand you had a meeting with the NCA yesterday. Did you raise with them the concerns about what's happening with these infrastructure projects?

MCBAIN: I meet with the NCA pretty regularly about a range of their work and their program in front of them. Obviously, we spoke about Scrivener Dam and the Commonwealth Avenue Bridge Renewal projects. Both of those projects are finalising their tender stage at the moment, and I’m really looking forward to those successful tenderers being announced in the coming weeks.

SOLLY: I understand there have been significant delays? Did they explain why we're well behind schedule on those projects?

MCBAIN: When we talk about the Scrivener Dam project, it holds back 33 million cubic metres of water. It’s a pretty big project. This will be the most significant strengthening works completed on the dam since it was built in 1963. What is happening is some work on the dissipator there, so that when water spills over the damn it doesn't erode the banks down the river. There are 700 new anchor points going into the foundation rock, 10 to 20 metres deep. So a pretty complex engineering project. Whilst the procurement has taken longer than we would have liked, it's in the process of being finalised now. We're six months behind where we would have wanted to be, but work will commence before Christmas, which is the most important thing.

SOLLY: Yeah, for sure. But can I also say this is taxpayers’ money that's been spent here and there has been a delay. Why has there been a delay? Are you satisfied with the reasons that have been put forward to you for why everything has been put back, and that we are now running behind schedule?

MCBAIN: As I said, we're six months behind schedule, but the project will commence before Christmas. The project is still on budget which is the most important thing for taxpayers to understand. It’s a pretty complex engineering job that is required on the Scrivener Dam. We look forward to work starting, that's what Canberrans want to see. Obviously, the Commonwealth Avenue Bridge is another significant piece of work. It'll be the first time major works have happened on that bridge apart from maintenance, since it was built as well. It’s really important that we get that right as well.

SOLLY: Is that still on budget or are we now over budget for that?

MCBAIN: No, that's still on budget. That includes works that will strengthen and widen the bridge, making sure that those passenger and bicycle lanes are also there. It's probably one of the most utilised assets across Canberra for both passenger vehicles, trucks and pedestrians. It's really important that project is done well, and there's been a range of works that have had to take place to get to the tender stage, which is important.

SOLLY: And of course, it is also integral, isn't it, to the whole light rail plan?

MCBAIN: That's right. Before this one went to tender, there was obviously some quite detailed design work, statutory, environmental and heritage assessments. A pretty big public and stakeholder consultation. Obviously, it's one of the most utilised assets across Canberra, but it is vital for light rail. Although, the works that are being done on Commonwealth Bridge themselves are not done for light rail. Lights rail’s project is separate to what we're doing on the bridge.

SOLLY: That's true. Are you still confident in the capacity of the NCA to handle these big projects? I notice that there's some critics suggesting that maybe this is all a bit much, and there needs to be a bigger authority come in and run big projects like this. Are you confident in the abilities of the NCA to do this work, Kristy McBain?

MCBAIN: Absolutely. Again, this nationally significant project remains on budget, which is extraordinary in the current environment, particularly the current construction environment that we see. The NCA have been doing a fantastic job on this, and the work that they've been doing in the lead up to this tender process shows how prepared they are, by making sure that all of the design elements are sorted before they go to tender.

SOLLY: All right. 7:27. While I've got you here. Kristy McBain, I have to ask you, are you still, are you a member of the Chairman's Lounge?

MCBAIN: I am, I’m a member of the Chairman’s Lounge.

SOLLY: Are you going to retain your membership?

MCBAIN: I pay for a Rex Lounge membership. Yes. One of the reasons it's incredibly important is a lot of times when we are travelling you're required to have some last-minute briefings or meetings that come up, and you need to do that in an environment that you can shut a door and have an office space. I've done a range of media interviews in those lounges. I've recorded a bunch of things in those lounges. There is a lot of travel required, although most of my travel is usually in the car around the electorate. But in my ministerial role when I am travelling, it's important to have a space sometimes to be able to get some work done in between flights.

SOLLY: Have you ever asked for an upgrade?

MCBAIN: No.

SOLLY: Why not? Everyone else does, seems to be anyway.

MCBAIN: A lot of my flights are into regional areas, and I'm travelling with Rex or Qantas into regional areas. A lot of those planes don't have a business class for obvious reasons. You're on smaller planes and it's just not something that has ever happened.

SOLLY: Just quickly on the TAFE and the HECS changes in about a minute or so, do you think that's going to have some significant bearing in the Canberra and surrounding districts?

MCBAIN: It’s going to be incredibly important for communities right across the country. It's a great announcement. We know that HECS debt has been piling up. It's a way to make it fairer for people now and into the future. Fee-Free TAFE locks in those fee-free TAFE places in critical shortage areas like our trades. We know we need more houses built across this country and it's incredibly important that we've got the plumbers, the chippies, the sparkies able to do that for us and this helps those people complete apprenticeships.

SOLLY: Good to speak to you this morning, Kristy McBain. Appreciate your time, thank you.

MCBAIN: Thanks, Ross.