1206 2CC Breakfast with Stephen Cenatiempo

STEPHEN CENATIEMPO: All right. I want to talk federal politics a little bit further. We're joined by Kristy McBain, the Minister for Regional Development, Territories and Local Government and the Member for Eden-Monaro. Kristy, good morning. 

KRISTY MCBAIN: Good morning Stephen. 

CENATIEMPO: Now I'm going to leave you out of the energy debate for the moment because it's not your portfolio, but something in the time that you and I have been talking, you've been very critical of the previous government and what the current government likes to call rorts, whether it's sports rorts, car park rorts, all of this. Well, it now turns out you guys are just as bad because the Housing Support Program is pouring money into Labor electorates and marginal electorates that you're trying to pick up. Pot calling the kettle black, much? 

MCBAIN: Our Housing Support Program Stream One has been announced, which is for a range of assistance to councils to help them with planning. Stream Two is not yet announced, which is the enabling infrastructure that will help build the water and sewer connections, the roads, kerbs and guttering to get more housing underway. It's really important that enabling infrastructure is taken off councils that may have to do it themselves if they own the land. Developers are saying, if we did all of that, the blocks become too expensive and nothing will get built. We're contributing in a number of ways to make sure that housing is more affordable for Australians out there, whether it's through enabling infrastructure, whether it's through the Housing Australia Future Fund.

CENATIEMPO: Kristy, that's not the argument here. The argument is that it's going into like key Labor electorates, and Coalition seats that you're targeting, exactly like car park and sports rorts. 

MCBAIN: I haven't seen any of those reports. The decisions have been made by the department, not by Ministers. It is important that we deal with what's in front of us, and that's transparency. If it's been made by the department, it's been made by the department. We've gone through round one of the Growing Regions Fund, which was audited in real time. Those projects were found to stack up to the guidelines. They were across a range of electorates. We've been walking the talk and saying, this is what we're going to be, as transparent as possible as the decisions are made by the department. That's what they are.

CENATIEMPO: Except for the Housing Support Fund. All right, let's talk housing while we're at it. You've hit out a Bridget McKenzie for saying the Commonwealth shouldn't fund housing. Well, the reality is, the Commonwealth's not going to fund housing. You're funding around the edges, which is exactly what the Opposition is saying we should do with their $5 billion package. 

MCBAIN: What I found quite extraordinary about Bridget McKenzie's comments was that she said we shouldn't fund housing in regional areas. That we need to get out of the way and let developers get on with the job. If Bridget paid any attention to the debate that was happening in the Senate, she would know that's exactly what we're doing. The Commonwealth Government doesn't have a construction arm. What we're doing is making sure we make it easier for people to get on with developments. They say imitation is the best form of flattery. It's nice to see the Coalition get on now and say we're actually going to contribute to the housing debate and copy our Housing Support Program.

CENATIEMPO: Well, it's not copying. Let's be fair dinkum about it, it's not copying.

MCBAIN: It is. It's funding enabling infrastructure, which is exactly what we're doing. I think that's fantastic. It's really important that we've got major parties interested in housing, and that's a big change from the ten years that they were in government. What we would like them to do is not only talk with us about enabling infrastructure, but also talk with us about the Help to Buy program, or the Build to Rent program. We know we need to start helping in all different facets of home ownership, whether that's renting, whether that's buying, whether that's trying to enable more blocks to get out on the market. It's really important that we're making a difference. The three levels of government need to be working together on this. That's been the change over the last couple of years. There is a real focus now on housing from three levels of government. 

CENATIEMPO: Now, I don't think we've seen any results of that yet. Let's talk about things closer to home in Bungendore. A flood mitigation program. Tell us about this?

MCBAIN: Right across the country we saw some catastrophic flooding in 2022. We provided $40 million towards the New South Wales Flood Recovery and Resilience Grant program. Under round two of this, more than $4.6 million is being invested across New South Wales, to deal with flood mitigation projects. $2.2 million is going to Queanbeyan-Palerang Regional Council to construct an overflow channel over Turallo Creek in Bungendore. It will allow the flood waters to bypass Tarago Road bridge instead of crossing that and flooding it, during times of heavy rain. I’m really proud to be able to deliver this, because the community has long called for this. We know we need to do more in making our communities more resilient come those heavy weather events. This is just another way that we're helping New South Wales deliver those resilient programs. It builds on last year's allocation of over $20 million, which went to 19 projects across New South Wales. Really proud that the community is finally getting a long called for a piece of infrastructure, that will allow them to still cross the road during heavy weather. 

CENATIEMPO: Now local communities are going to be asked to help identify potential locations for the next round of the Mobile Black Spots Program. Why do we need to do this? Why aren't local Members already aware of where their black spots are? 

MCBAIN: We do this all the time with communities. Councils call for community input for black spots all the time, and are constantly updating the telcos with these. I ran a survey last time, which identified a range of different black spots, and we contribute to it as well as community members. It's really important, particularly as we see the development of more housing blocks, that we make sure that connectivity is still front of mind, particularly when we're developing more rural areas. It is really important that we continue to update that as we head towards round eight of the Mobile Black Spot Program, which will close later this year. It’s just another way you integrate with your community and understand what's happening. 

CENATIEMPO: All right. Again, I think if a local Member is doing their job well enough, they should know where the black spots are in their electorates. But Kristy, always good to talk to you. We'll catch up in a couple of weeks’ time. 

MCBAIN: Sounds great. Thanks.