Media conference - Adelaide
NADIA CLANCY [STATE MEMBER FOR ELDER]: I’m Nadia Clancy. I am the Member for Elder I'm here today with the Premier Peter Malinauskas as well as Federal Minister for Infrastructure Catherine King. We also have State Minister who you are all well accustomed to, Minister Koutsantonis, and my electorate boundary mate, Jayne Stinson. So we're right in the electorate of Elder at the moment and I am so excited to see so much activity on site at the moment. It sort of has felt like a slow burn and now we are here. I really want to thank my constituents for their patience and understanding as we’ve dealt with these changes and these sort of minor inconveniences, and really, really excited that now the Norrie Avenue link road has now been completed which is making things a lot easier for locals. Now I will hand over to the Premier.
PETER MALINAUSKAS [SA PREMIER]: Thanks so much Nadia, it's great to be here with you and Jayne. Your consistent advocacy on behalf of your constituents is making the relative inconvenience of this project far easier to deal with so we can make sure we can get it done. It's great to be here with Tom as always but I particularly want to thank Catherine King, the Federal Infrastructure Minister, and take this opportunity to in this forum congratulate you, Catherine, on the re-election of the Albanese Government and your retention of one the most important portfolios that we see in any government in the country.
The partnership between my state government and the Albanese federal government really is on show here. I am very pleased that we are getting this project done. The non-stop South Road project has been talked about for decades and the hardest part is now finally underway because we are making it happen. We have not spared any expense to get it done properly the first time. A $15.4 billion infrastructure project that will literally change the way that traffic moves through our city for the next 100 years. The legacy of this project will be not just an infinite amount of convenience for tens of thousands of motorists, but it'll actually be changing the economic dynamic of the way our city operates, which is exactly why this is worth it in the long run. I cannot possibly overstate the size and the complexity of this $15.4 billion project, but when it is completed, which is actually, in the scheme of things, not that far away, it'll mean that up to 40 minutes in commute time is saved as a result of the removal of 21 sets of traffic lights for people during peak hour. Any time you remove 21 sets of traffic lights from any journey on our roads in a metropolitan environment, it saves a lot of time, but 40 minutes for a community to peak hour, that's a big number. And when you add that up for every single working family, every single day of the week, it means hours and hours of people's lives that are returned to a better standard of living or to a better economic outcome, which is exactly why this project requires urgency. And finally, we've got two governments getting together to get it done and get it done properly.
There has been a lot of work, a lot of work that has led to us being able to be here today where major construction is now underway for where the tunnel boring machines on the southern end of the project will be lowered. Just behind where I'm standing right now, two 90 metre- long tunnel boring machines will be lowered 25 metres below the surface to start tunnelling out throughout the second half of 2026 right through to the project's completion. This is one of the biggest engineering undertakings that's not just occurred in the history of our state but indeed the nation. This is the biggest infrastructure project in Australia right now. There is none bigger than this, and it's going to change the way our city operates forever in a way that will be a lot more convenient for everyone from working families to small businesses to big businesses who want to get things moving in and around metropolitan Adelaide.
The non-stop South Road project has been talked about a lot and we've seen a lot been achieved over the course of the last 20 years. But this is the big part, this is the hard part and my government is getting it done. But we're only able to do that because of the partnership, a 50/50 funding partnership between the state and federal government, $7.7 billion from the Commonwealth, $7.7 billion coming from the state government. Every step of the way, the relationship between the government, particularly between Minister Koutsantonis and Minister King has just been outstanding.
I want to take this opportunity to really thank Minister King, not just for her stewardship but also for her advocacy on occasions. She appreciates just how dynamic and important this project is and has done a lot to help make it happen. So I'll hand over to the Minister to say a few words and then Minister Koutsantonis, Minister King and myself will be able to answer your questions.
CATHERINE KING [MINISTER]: Thanks Premier. Well, it's great to be back here in the great state of South Australia, and you can see behind us here, this is a state that is delivering important infrastructure for communities here in Adelaide. Can I thank Nadia and Jayne for being here, they've been great advocates of this project, but can I particularly acknowledge both the premier and also Minister Koutsantonis. It is such a delight to work with the pair of them on these projects. I know both them coming to government and us coming to government, this project really was in a bit of a state and we had to make hard decisions about investing more money to get this project done. This $15 billion plus project is very much a 50/50 partnership between the Albanese Labor Government and the Malinauskas Labor Government, because Labor Government's build peace.
Infrastructure is absolutely my passion. I'm so delighted to have been returned as Infrastructure Minister because infrastructure changes lives. And what a great way of doing so. Twenty-one sets of traffic lights removed, 40 minutes off commute time. And that means for people, that's 40 minutes more you can spend with your families. Actually spending time being able to do the things that matter most to all of us. Being able to spend that time with your kids, being able to spend that time with your families. It also is a great employment generator. Over 5,500 people will be employed on this site over the course of its life, and 600 of those are going to be trainees and apprentices, new workers coming into the construction industry. And I particularly want to give a shout out to the many women in construction that we're seeing, heaps of them on site here today. It is a great career, and I'm so delighted that we see so many women entering this field. We have to have more women in construction, and this project with 600 new trainees and new apprentices working on site will deliver that.
Delighted to partner with the Malinauskas Government on this project. We're investing over $9 billion in infrastructure here in South Australia, but this is by far the biggest build of any of them. You can see behind us where the tunnel boring machines will be assembled and then dropped to actually start their work, and there's going to be lots of opportunities for the media to see this construction project. It is the biggest road project in the state. There are lots of other projects that would claim to rival it, but I would have to say it's the biggest project in state and the biggest project in the country in terms of the longest and three tunnel boring machines, the largest in the country, when they're assembled on site.
So, terrific to be here today. I want to thank and wish all the very best to the construction company. You can see this has started because it's only Labor governments that actually deliver infrastructure, and only Labor governments that deliver the sort of infrastructure that South Australia needs.
I’ll hand over to the Premier for questions and then we’ll work from there.
JOURNALIST: [inaudible]
PETER MALINAUSKAS: Yeah, I can talk about that, and maybe Tom can [indistinct]… as well. Look, you can’t make an omelette without breaking some eggs, and we’re a government that’s very conscious of the fact that during a project of this size and complexity, of course there's going be a degree of disruption. But we want to get things done, and we're not going to back away from making tough decisions that are required to set the state up for the long term. There's a lot of economic opportunity before South Australia at the moment, and if we want people to be able to participate in it, they've got to be able to get to their places of work in a way that is efficient and productive, which means this project just has to be delivered. It just has to get done.
Now, there has been a lot of engagement with local communities, and local MPs have certainly been powerful advocates – not just through the compulsory acquisition process, which is largely complete, but also with all the various movements and traffic that we'll see over the coming years ahead. But at the end of it is the end game, which is a 40 minute saving for people in their commute during peak hour. Twenty-one sets of traffic lights removed. That'll be worth it, right? It's not just this project that we've got going on that causes a bit of inconvenience too. As a government, we've made tough decisions on this project. We've made tough decisions on the womens’ and kids’ project. But we do it because what we're interested in is the long-term outcome. We're not thinking about short-term politics. We're thinking about long-term outcomes for the state, and none is more important than the $15.4 billion project that we deliver here.
It’s true to say that if I was only thinking about the next election, we probably wouldn't necessarily make the same decisions. But because we're thinking about the long term, and we do want to get to that end point of having a 40 minute saving, we're powering ahead and making the tough choices so we can get this project done, and done as quickly as we can.
JOURNALIST: How confident are you that this is going to be delivered on time and on budget? [Indistinct] …
PETER MALINAUSKAS: [Talks over] Well, so far, things have gone alright. So far, things are going well. Now, we're not naive to the fact that there's going to be challenges along the way, but so far, I mean, I've been honest about the womens’ and kids’, and I'll be honest about this project. So far, things are going well. But we're still at the front nine, we're not on the back nine yet, and then it's going to happen.
JOURNALIST: There's a lot of money that's being spent on this, obviously federally and state. Is there a lot of wiggle room in the budget for other projects that are going to be coming up?
PETER MALINAUSKAS: Well, you’ll have to wait and see in the budget. We’re not that far away. Look, we’ve been really pleated as a government in delivering budget surpluses. We haven’t just forecast them, we’ve delivered them. We haven’t delivered a deficit yet. We’re working hard to keep it that way, and that gives us the room to be able to invest in things that set the state up for the long term. But there's always competing priorities. The biggest one for us remains health and education. That's core business as far as we're concerned, and it makes a difference to people's lives, and we're always looking for opportunities to invest in those things.
But as far as major transport infrastructure, we focus on the non-stop South Road element, but there's also a lot of east-west connectivity that we're investing in as well. That's already starting to move traffic a lot better to and from other parts of Adelaide. So the $15.4 billion project number is predominantly the non-stop South Road element, but a lot of east-west activity and connectivity has been invested in too, which will also help traffic flow more broadly.
JOURNALIST: There’s a lot of construction going on around Adelaide [indistinct]. Do we have the local [indistinct]…?
PETER MALINAUSKAS: That's a good question. By and large, yes. I mean, look, If you're in civil construction or other construction type jobs, South Australia is the place you want to be. There's no doubt about it. We are grateful though that we are seeing some expertise come from other parts of the country. In fact, I was just chatting to someone calling Adelaide home, and hopefully, it stays that way because we are going to need the workforce in the future. Because understand this, we've got this project, we've got the womens’ and kids’, but then beyond that, all the work that is required down at Osborne, which is many billions of dollars worth of construction, there'll be work there in the future as well. Our ambitions for what we hopefully want to see happen at Olympic Dam, what we want to see at Wyalla, it's not just a pipeline of work over the course of the next four years. What we're setting ourselves up for is a pipeline of work over the course of the decade ahead, because that's what prudent planning demands.
So, in terms of workforce, yes, of course, there's a lot of demand for labour in the state at the moment. We’ve got the lowest unemployment rate levels we’d ever seen. I think we’ve got the seventh lowest unemployment rate in the nation. It’s below 4 per cent. That’s a good problem to have, in some respects. But we’ve also got to be investing into skills in the future, which is what our technical college is all about.
JOURNALIST: [inaudible]
PETER MALINAUSKAS: Yeah, in parts, yes. And if they end up calling Adelaide their home, that’s a good thing. It's why we've got more houses being built in South Australia on an apples-for-apples basis than any other part of the country. The stats out just in the last fortnight show that housing dwelling starts, and also approvals are growing at the fastest rate in South Australia, anywhere in the country. In fact, the national average is going backwards but South Australia is growing.
JOURNALIST: Had another fatal crash, and you’re saying [indistinct] on our roads. What will need to be done to keep the roads safe now?
PETER MALINAUSKUS: Well, I might invite Tom to have a few words about this. I mean, apart from just acknowledging the awful loss of life, it's heartbreaking for a family. You know, we see the road toll and that's a number but what sits behind that, of course, are real people and family will be devastated badly by those deaths and my thoughts are with them. But in terms of the truck traffic I might just leave it to Tom to say a few words. Is there any other questions for me before I [indistinct] to Tom?
JOURNALIST: Yeah. I was just wondering, in terms of the upper house, Sarah Game has obviously left One Nation. What does that look like for you guys now in terms of passing legislation? Do you have any concerns or confidence in that change with Tammy as well of course?
PETER MALINAUSKUS: Yeah. I haven't had chance to speak about Tammy publicly yet, either, so maybe I'll deal with both of those. Yeah look, in our rich, vibrant liberal democracy change happens, and we've got a quite a diverse mix of people in the upper house. And what I try to do is work with them, regardless of their political hue. Of course, there are things that we'll disagree on ideologically and philosophically, that's clear. But I also want to work with people from other political parties, because that's the way you achieve results.
So, whether Tammy Franks is in the Greens or Sarah Nation[sic] is in One Nation, I'm going to sit down and I'm going to work with them, because I think that's what leadership requires. I will, however, make this point, you know, out of all of the cross section of political hues in the parliament at the moment, of which there are a number, there's only one political party that hasn't lost any members or had anyone quit or leave, and what is the party? It's us. So, despite us having more members than anybody else, we're the most disciplined and united team. So- but in terms of Tammy and Sarah, they've made their own decisions, that's for them and their political parties to resolve. But as the Premier of the state I want to work with them no matter what.
JOURNALIST: Do you think it's very fair for the voters who have helped vote in these people in to have party members. For example, Sarah wasn't particularly known in her own right beforehand to have these people then going to sit as independent? Do you think that’s fair to them?
PETER MALINAUSKUS: This has been a feature of the Westminster system since it's dawn. And what we do, though, in the Labor Party is- you know, in South Australia, we've got a particularly disciplined and united- you know, where we have points of difference we sit down and work with one another, rather than just storm out and quit. And that's what allows us, as a government, to focus on what's in the best interest of the state. The business of other political parties, I'll leave that to them to [indistinct].
JOURNALIST: [Indistinct] around the issues [indistinct] parties or anything which will change that way.
PETER MALINAUSKUS: I understand the argument, but I think it's difficult. And it's not a feature of many Westminster parliaments we see around- in the world. So, it's not something I envisage having here anytime soon.
JOURNALIST: Back to the question?
PETER MALINAUSKUS: Yeah, I’ll know that Tom’s got that.
JOURNALIST: [Indistinct] There have been some talk about our industry, trucking industry and the rules surrounding the drivers and training that's sort of sparked up that debate, and why we don't know the circumstances surrounding this one we need to have another look at how we're training truck drivers.
TOM KOUTSANTONIS [SA MINISTER FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORT]: Yeah. So, we have here in South Australia. So, we're the first state in the federation to change the way we're training drivers, especially ones who are coming from abroad. We are no longer recognising accreditation in other jurisdictions internationally. We wanted them to be trained here in Australia, to understand Australian conditions.
Look, heavy vehicles are getting larger in Australia, they're not getting smaller. We're a big country and we are looking at growing our road trains even larger, and training is becoming even more important. What occurred on the weekend is a tragedy. It probably could have been avoided. No one needs to die on our roads with a heavy vehicle if everyone is trained appropriately and equipment is appropriately maintained.
We'll let this go through the court process to understand exactly what occurred. I understand police have charged a person this morning so I'm not going to go into the details other than to say, if you come to this [audio skips] and you want to drive a heavy vehicle in South Australia, we expect you to be trained here in South Australia. I call on other [audio skips] jurisdictions to do the same thing because it's important that Australian conditions are top of mind for when we train our drivers.
Now, I don't know the circumstances here. I don't know what occurred here, I'm getting a briefing later on today. But it's important to note that heavy vehicles are dangerous. We have very, very strict heavy vehicle national regulations that govern the way people drive heavy vehicles, the way that they're trained, and the way that these vehicles are assessed. There's trainer responsibility here, right back to the owners of the company and directors of that company who could be personally liable for even criminal charges if something is going wrong. So, we want to get to the bottom of this, but it is way too early to form any judgment.
PETER MALINAUSKUS: Thanks so much everyone. Cheers.
JOURNALIST: Sorry. Just one more.
PETER MALINAUSKUS: So, we’ll take this last one [indistinct]…
JOURNALIST: Sorry. In terms of the speed that [indistinct] today, you’re going to increase it to around [indistinct] saying another 25 kilometres per hour on our roads. Do you know much about that? Does council [indistinct]…
TOM KOUTSANTONIS: I do. Yes, there are reforms. Yes, yes. So, what we've done is we've listened to the RAA, we've listened to tow truck drivers. When amber lights turn on because they're working on a vehicle on the side of the road that's either broken down or needs to be towed, there have been too many crashes and near misses that make it dangerous to bring aid to people who are stranded on the side of the road. So, when you see these amber lights it's important that you slow down to 25 kilometres per hour, as safely and as quickly as possible for you to do so. If you do breach it, depending on the speed that you're going over - the same penalties apply for emergency service vehicles, if you drive past a police car and ambulance with red lights flashing.
It's very, very important to maintain the safety and security of these people providing assistance on the side of the road, and we make no apologies for that. I heard this morning tow truck drivers who are turning up to cars that have been broken down on the side of the road, while they're connecting these vehicles seeing either individuals being clipped or vehicles being rammed into. It's important now people, when they see flashing lights, to slow down.
PETER MALINAUSKUS: All right, thanks very much, everyone.